At the same time, what of those who are in the miltary and their families who both support the war and know that we're winning and that it's worth it? What? Do we enjoy the the sacrifice or something? It's fun to worry when that scheduled checkpoint doesn't happen for days on end? To know the faces and characters of the men and women that don't return? Should we openly embrace their deaths as meaningless in a battle we know we can win and think absolutely nothing of it?
I think this is ridiculous and I'm not even going to continue a debate here because it's not even a debate -- it's just name-calling and hyperbole.
What freedoms have you lost in conjunction with the War on Terror and the Bush Administration? This is a line that's always being repeated again, and yet, I've yet to see a single person list even ONE freedom that they've lost, let alone multiple.
I know exactly what you'll say to this, that it's a right I should be willing to give up, but I'm not willing to give up something so basic which has nothing to do with keeping us safe from terrorists: every time I fly on an airplane I have to remove a jacket, a cardigan, my shoes, my belt, every bit of jewelery I'm wearing, and run it through a machine. If I happen to have a bottle of water on me, it will get confiscated. I have seen women and children pulled out of line and frisked. And we won't even go into the racial profiling. Terror aims to make people so scared that they will give up the smallest thing. Everything snowballs from there. And it's freaking stupid.
Because free people aren't subjected to indoctrination without recourse, and freedom from that indoctrination is the only way to eliminate the generational hatred for America in that region.
By subjecting them to our will and indocrinating them with our ideas?
So many Iraqi civilians have died in this war! It's one thing for people to die for their own freedom, but we imposed this on them! They're people. Revolution has to come from within. And when do we know it's done? When they've completely given up their religion and their differences and look just like us? What if that never happens? Or what if it appears to, we leave, and then they degenerate into this same sectarian violence again, and more innocent lives are lost?
We're not allowed to dig for our own oil due to all the environmentalist wacko red tape, and a new refinery hasn't been opened in the US since the 1970s. We have no shortage of oil; we have a shortage of refineries. Thank the liberal hippies for that;
You know, if you want to be taken seriously, you really ought to stop using terms like "environmentalist wacko" and "liberal hippies". You can respectfully disagree with people without resorting to trite name-calling.
The answer to the problem is that we stop using oil. :)
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Date: 2008-02-12 07:18 pm (UTC)I think this is ridiculous and I'm not even going to continue a debate here because it's not even a debate -- it's just name-calling and hyperbole.
What freedoms have you lost in conjunction with the War on Terror and the Bush Administration? This is a line that's always being repeated again, and yet, I've yet to see a single person list even ONE freedom that they've lost, let alone multiple.
I know exactly what you'll say to this, that it's a right I should be willing to give up, but I'm not willing to give up something so basic which has nothing to do with keeping us safe from terrorists: every time I fly on an airplane I have to remove a jacket, a cardigan, my shoes, my belt, every bit of jewelery I'm wearing, and run it through a machine. If I happen to have a bottle of water on me, it will get confiscated. I have seen women and children pulled out of line and frisked. And we won't even go into the racial profiling. Terror aims to make people so scared that they will give up the smallest thing. Everything snowballs from there. And it's freaking stupid.
Because free people aren't subjected to indoctrination without recourse, and freedom from that indoctrination is the only way to eliminate the generational hatred for America in that region.
By subjecting them to our will and indocrinating them with our ideas?
So many Iraqi civilians have died in this war! It's one thing for people to die for their own freedom, but we imposed this on them! They're people. Revolution has to come from within. And when do we know it's done? When they've completely given up their religion and their differences and look just like us? What if that never happens? Or what if it appears to, we leave, and then they degenerate into this same sectarian violence again, and more innocent lives are lost?
We're not allowed to dig for our own oil due to all the environmentalist wacko red tape, and a new refinery hasn't been opened in the US since the 1970s. We have no shortage of oil; we have a shortage of refineries. Thank the liberal hippies for that;
You know, if you want to be taken seriously, you really ought to stop using terms like "environmentalist wacko" and "liberal hippies". You can respectfully disagree with people without resorting to trite name-calling.
The answer to the problem is that we stop using oil. :)
I'm done.