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fantastic_jackie ([personal profile] fantastic_jackie) wrote2009-07-10 10:48 am

Ginsburg: Outs that Abortion = Modern Eugenics

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of." - Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg


Whole NYT Interview HERE.

Just One Question: Which race has disproportionally aborted more children in the US?

[identity profile] morrighangw.livejournal.com 2009-07-10 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
........WTF? Just no.

[identity profile] adaon6.livejournal.com 2009-07-10 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
If you think that's bad look in to the eugenics movement some time. That's just a piece of it.

[identity profile] patriot-jackie.livejournal.com 2009-07-10 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Progressivism + Eugenics = BFF

Even in its modern form, the principles of both haven't mutated far.

[identity profile] patriot-jackie.livejournal.com 2009-07-10 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry: She also thinks Congress should legislate household chores. *rolls eyes*

Are we really sure about this whole lifelong appointment thing?

[identity profile] xxdesert-rose.livejournal.com 2009-07-11 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
So she's basically saying that abortions should be legal? Or did I completely miss what she said? I didn't like what she was trying to imply by the whole "disproportional abortions" though. Totally got a creepy/disgusted vibe by that little comment.

[identity profile] patriot-jackie.livejournal.com 2009-07-11 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes. Ginsburg definitely supports the current legality of abortion. Before she was a Justice, she was a lawyer for the ACLU. Once did a case pressing for the age of sexual consent be lowered to 12.

You know what eugenics is, right? They tried to skip over it for you in school too, I'm sure... The eugenics movement of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries sought to "improve" the human species and preserve racial "purity" through planned human breeding. I first ran into modern eugenics when I was told I shouldn't exist because of my mixed parents, that my parents never should have had children if they had to be together - which was destructive - but since I do exist, I at least needed to commit to not procreating. Only then did the link to abortion occur to me.

The disproportional abortions comment was mine... Between the quotation marks in bold is what the Justice said. There is a particular race that abortions are far more common in than any other in the U.S.

So you would be absolutely right to get a creepy vibe from the comment.

The next part of the comment, she laments that the Supreme Court found that the government cannot fund abortions through Welfare.

[identity profile] xxdesert-rose.livejournal.com 2009-07-12 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
So she's saying I shouldn't exist because my dad is Nigerian and my mother is Creole? She sounds like she's full of crap.

[identity profile] patriot-jackie.livejournal.com 2009-07-13 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Not exactly. Racial purity comes in many forms; the part about my mixed parents was my own personal first experience with racial purity believers, one manifestation of eugenics. It opened my eyes to its modern existence.

There are those that do believe that to be sure, but Ginsburg hasn't claimed such.

Essentially the idea is, and Planned Parenthood's original idea was, to abort racial minorities out of existence. Slowly. Gradually. Decline eventually takes over...

To which populations Ginsburg is referring remains undefined. But black women have more abortions than any other racial subset of America.